hyphenation in adobe garamond pro

[Bob Yu]

dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the hyphenation
"dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how can i solve
this problem?

thanks a lot.

bob

[Nicolas Vaughan]

Hi Bob,
That's the font designer's design. But you can change it, if you feel so.
See the Fontspec manual, §5.7.
Cheers,
Nicolas

Post by Bob Yu
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the hyphenation
"dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how can i solve
this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Alexandre Pachot]

Hi bob,

I just check my Garamond Premier Pro font trough TextEdit, and the 14th
(2D)(hyphen-minus) glyph, look like this !

Alex

Post by Bob Yu
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the hyphenation
"dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how can i solve
this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Bob Yu]

Thanks Nicolas and Alex!
I might change it. Not used to this titled one ;-)

Haibo

Post by Alexandre Pachot
Hi bob,
I just check my Garamond Premier Pro font trough TextEdit, and the 14th
(2D)(hyphen-minus) glyph, look like this !
Alex
dear all,

Post by Bob Yu
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the
hyphenation "dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how
can i solve this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi Bob,

But perhaps you should respect the designer's work!
I think it is OK to be able to change anything in font,... but then why
should the designer spend a lot of time fine tuning his fonts if they
will be changed anyway.
The tilted hyphen is part of the look of the font; most probably there
are many other differences you didn't notice yet.

But agreed, it is not usual (or didn't I pay attention!!)

Alain

Post by Bob Yu
Thanks Nicolas and Alex!
I might change it. Not used to this titled one ;-)
Haibo
Hi bob,
I just check my Garamond Premier Pro font trough TextEdit, and the
14th (2D)(hyphen-minus) glyph, look like this !
Alex
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found
the hyphenation "dash" is not straight but tilted, see the
attached picture? how can i solve this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Rembrandt Wolpert]

Hi Bob,

I agree with Alain. The hyphen in Garamond Premier Pro is purposely
distinguished in shape from n-dash (--) and m-dash (---). (Those two *are*
straight, in addition to being different in length.)

Rembrandt

Post by Nicolas Vaughan
Hi Bob,
But perhaps you should respect the designer's work!
I think it is OK to be able to change anything in font,... but then why
should the designer spend a lot of time fine tuning his fonts if they will
be changed anyway.
The tilted hyphen is part of the look of the font; most probably there are
many other differences you didn't notice yet.
But agreed, it is not usual (or didn't I pay attention!!)
Alain

Post by Bob Yu
Thanks Nicolas and Alex!
I might change it. Not used to this titled one ;-)
Haibo
Hi bob,
I just check my Garamond Premier Pro font trough TextEdit, and the
14th (2D)(hyphen-minus) glyph, look like this !
Alex
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found
the hyphenation "dash" is not straight but tilted, see the
attached picture? how can i solve this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Michael Saunders]

I can't find an example, but I'm pretty sure that the tilted dash was
a characteristic of Claude Garamond's work in the 1530s--40s, and was
based on Venetian designs of the century before that, e.g. this one
from 1499:

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In other words, your font files are not in error and there is no
problem to be fixed, unless you don't like Garamond.

-- m

Post by Bob Yu
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the hyphenation
"dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how can i solve
this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob

[Nicolas Vaughan]

As far as I know, the tiled hyphen wasn't in C. Garamond's original designs
(I haven't find it in them yet!), but it is something pertaining more to the
Centaur typeface.
See: Loading Image...

But also see the Poliphilius typeface:
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I believe this was done in imitation of the copyists' work. See e.g. this
beautiful 15th century manuscript of the book I of Ockham's Prologue to the
*Ordinatio*:
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Nicolas

Post by Michael Saunders
I can't find an example, but I'm pretty sure that the tilted dash was
a characteristic of Claude Garamond's work in the 1530s--40s, and was
based on Venetian designs of the century before that, e.g. this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manutius.jpg
In other words, your font files are not in error and there is no
problem to be fixed, unless you don't like Garamond.
-- m

Post by Bob Yu
dear all,
i am trying to use adobe garamond pro font. however i found the

hyphenation

Post by Bob Yu
"dash" is not straight but tilted, see the attached picture? how can i

solve

Post by Bob Yu
this problem?
thanks a lot.
bob