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[XeTeX] Devanagari ASCII to Unicode mapping
Daniel Greenhoe
2018-02-17 16:08:15 UTC
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Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?

For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "ब" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet), but is
0x092C in the Unicode standard:
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf

So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.

Does anyone know where I might find such a mapping?

Many many thanks in advance,
Dan






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2018-02-17 16:34:55 UTC
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
Would this be of any help ?

https://clas.uiowa.edu/linguistics/hindi-verb-project/ascii-devanagari-chart

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Daniel Greenhoe
2018-02-17 16:57:12 UTC
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https://clas.uiowa.edu/linguistics/hindi-verb-project/ascii-devanagari-chart
That one looks to be more like an input tool (like a teckit mapping)
for Devanagari.

What I think I am looking for is something that would map a document
typeset using something like the Devanagari Preeti font
(https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font), which seems to have the Devanagari
glyphs encoded in the range 0x00-0x7F, to something like the
Devanagari unicode font Mukta
(https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html) in the range
0x0900-0x097F.

In short, I would maybe like a simple map something like this:
0x21 --> 0x096F (९)
0x22 --> 0x0942
0x23 --> 0x0969 (३)
0x24 --> 0x096A (४)
0x25 --> 0x096B (५)
0x26 --> 0x096D (७)
...
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Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
Would this be of any help ?
https://clas.uiowa.edu/linguistics/hindi-verb-project/ascii-devanagari-chart
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ShreeDevi Kumar
2018-02-17 16:58:02 UTC
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For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "à€¬" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet),

Before unicode, devanagari fonts used the ASCII range (legacy fonts) -
however AFAIK there is no standardization in the mapping, though various
families of fonts had similar mapping.

see http://hindi-fonts.com/tools for converters from different mappings to
unicode.

So, ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari will change based on the font
used.


ShreeDevi
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
Would this be of any help ?
https://clas.uiowa.edu/linguistics/hindi-verb-project/ascii-
devanagari-chart
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2018-02-17 17:15:06 UTC
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Post by ShreeDevi Kumar
Before unicode, devanagari fonts used the ASCII range (legacy fonts) -
however AFAIK there is no standardization in the mapping, though various
families of fonts had similar mapping.
see http://hindi-fonts.com/tools for converters from different mappings
to unicode.
So,  ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari will change based on the
font used.
Indeed! In 2003, DARPA held a "surprise language exercise", the goal of
which was to produce (very basic) MT etc. tools for Hindi, in a month's
time. I had been involved in the prep for it to ensure that there would
be no roadblocks (at the time, I was working at the LDC). One of the
things that Bill Poser and I verified was that there was a Unicode
encoding for Hindi/Devanagari. There was, but that was the wrong
question.

The right question was whether any Hindi website used Unicode. The
answer to that was that the BBC and Colgate did, but hardly anyone else.
A few Indian government sites used ISCII, which wouldn't have been
bad, but most places used proprietary encodings that went along with a
proprietary font. Worse, these were not simple code-point-to-character
encodings; it was as if the Latin letter 'l' had been encoded as 'l',
but then 'd' had been encoded as 'c' + 'l', 'b' as 'l' + a sort of
backwards 'c', 'p' as a lowered 'l' _ the backwards 'c', etc. It was a
mess, and for awhile it was unclear whether the exercise would fail
because most of the data we needed was in these weird proprietary
encodings. (It eventually succeeded.)

There are some notes here--

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/ldc/hindi_fonts_and_conversions.html
--that Mark Liberman of the LDC made at the time concerning some of the
issues. Most of it is long out of date (and the links are probably
broken), and these proprietary encodings have thankfully been replaced
by Unicode; but if you're dealing with documents from that era, you
might still run into them. The LDC *might* still have the encoding
converters laying around somewhere.
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ShreeDevi Kumar
2018-02-18 09:10:35 UTC
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Thank you for this info.

There is still a lot of content in Hindi being generated in non-Unicode
fonts (lot of DTP software being used in India still does not support
Unicode).
Post by Mike Maxwell
The LDC *might* still have the encoding converters laying around
somewhere.

These will be very useful, if they can be made available. There is a need
for easily converting legacy documents to Unicode. One of the applications
for which someone was looking for these recently was for checking for
plagiarism in student projects/thesis.

ShreeDevi
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Post by Mike Maxwell
Before unicode, devanagari fonts used the ASCII range (legacy fonts) -
however AFAIK there is no standardization in the mapping, though various
families of fonts had similar mapping.
see http://hindi-fonts.com/tools for converters from different mappings
to unicode.
So, ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari will change based on the
font used.
Indeed! In 2003, DARPA held a "surprise language exercise", the goal of
which was to produce (very basic) MT etc. tools for Hindi, in a month's
time. I had been involved in the prep for it to ensure that there would be
no roadblocks (at the time, I was working at the LDC). One of the things
that Bill Poser and I verified was that there was a Unicode encoding for
Hindi/Devanagari. There was, but that was the wrong question.
The right question was whether any Hindi website used Unicode. The answer
to that was that the BBC and Colgate did, but hardly anyone else. A few
Indian government sites used ISCII, which wouldn't have been bad, but most
places used proprietary encodings that went along with a proprietary font.
Worse, these were not simple code-point-to-character encodings; it was as
if the Latin letter 'l' had been encoded as 'l', but then 'd' had been
encoded as 'c' + 'l', 'b' as 'l' + a sort of backwards 'c', 'p' as a
lowered 'l' _ the backwards 'c', etc. It was a mess, and for awhile it was
unclear whether the exercise would fail because most of the data we needed
was in these weird proprietary encodings. (It eventually succeeded.)
There are some notes here--
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/ldc/hindi_fonts_and_conversions.html
--that Mark Liberman of the LDC made at the time concerning some of the
issues. Most of it is long out of date (and the links are probably
broken), and these proprietary encodings have thankfully been replaced by
Unicode; but if you're dealing with documents from that era, you might
still run into them. The LDC *might* still have the encoding converters
laying around somewhere.
--
Mike Maxwell
"My definition of an interesting universe is
one that has the capacity to study itself."
--Stephen Eastmond
Mike Maxwell
2018-02-18 18:28:46 UTC
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Post by Mike Maxwell
The LDC *might* still have the encoding converters laying around
somewhere.
These will be very useful, if they can be made available. There is a
need for easily converting legacy documents to Unicode. One of the
applications for which someone was looking for these recently was for
checking for plagiarism in student projects/thesis.
I'd suggest contacting them. Their website is
ldc.upenn.edu
There's a "Contact us" tab near the upper right-hand corner of their page.
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2018-02-17 16:57:59 UTC
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "ब" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet), but is
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.
In addition to the ASCII-to-Devanagari transcription system that Philip
Taylor mentioned, you may be interested in the ISCII encoding for
Brahmi-derived writing systems, including Devanagari:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Information_Interchange

This is _not_ an ASCII-to-Devanagari encoding, rather it leaves the
ASCII range intact, and encodes Devanagari (etc.) in the range 128
(actually, 161)-255. It was afaik never widely used, but there were
(and probably still are) fonts for it. I don't imagine those fonts
would be terribly high quality by today's standards, e.g. I'd be
surprised if they handled conjunct characters.

FWIW, there was a similar encoding called TSCII for Tamil.

iconv can be used to map TSCII to other encodings, but for some reason
it doesn't seem to have ISCII in its reportoire (it does include VISCII,
but that's a legacy Vietnamese encoding).
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ShreeDevi Kumar
2018-02-17 17:02:47 UTC
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
What I think I am looking for is something that would map a document
typeset using something like the Devanagari Preeti font
(https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font), which seems to have the Devanagari
glyphs encoded in the range 0x00-0x7F, to something like the
Devanagari unicode font Mukta
(https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html) in the range
0x0900-0x097F.

Please try http://www.ashesh.com.np/preeti-unicode/

Also see

https://github.com/Shuvayatra/preeti

ShreeDevi
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "à€¬" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet), but is
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.
In addition to the ASCII-to-Devanagari transcription system that Philip
Taylor mentioned, you may be interested in the ISCII encoding for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Informa
tion_Interchange
This is _not_ an ASCII-to-Devanagari encoding, rather it leaves the ASCII
range intact, and encodes Devanagari (etc.) in the range 128 (actually,
161)-255. It was afaik never widely used, but there were (and probably
still are) fonts for it. I don't imagine those fonts would be terribly
high quality by today's standards, e.g. I'd be surprised if they handled
conjunct characters.
FWIW, there was a similar encoding called TSCII for Tamil.
iconv can be used to map TSCII to other encodings, but for some reason it
doesn't seem to have ISCII in its reportoire (it does include VISCII, but
that's a legacy Vietnamese encoding).
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ShreeDevi Kumar
2018-02-17 17:11:26 UTC
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Please see

view-source:http://hindi-fonts.com/tools/Preeti-to-Unicode-Converter

There is no direct mapping, but array_one has the ASCII codes for Preeti,
while array_two has the corresponding unicode.

ShreeDevi
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
What I think I am looking for is something that would map a document
typeset using something like the Devanagari Preeti font
(https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font), which seems to have the Devanagari
glyphs encoded in the range 0x00-0x7F, to something like the
Devanagari unicode font Mukta
(https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html) in the range
0x0900-0x097F.
Please try http://www.ashesh.com.np/preeti-unicode/
Also see
https://github.com/Shuvayatra/preeti
ShreeDevi
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "à€¬" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet), but is
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.
In addition to the ASCII-to-Devanagari transcription system that Philip
Taylor mentioned, you may be interested in the ISCII encoding for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Informa
tion_Interchange
This is _not_ an ASCII-to-Devanagari encoding, rather it leaves the ASCII
range intact, and encodes Devanagari (etc.) in the range 128 (actually,
161)-255. It was afaik never widely used, but there were (and probably
still are) fonts for it. I don't imagine those fonts would be terribly
high quality by today's standards, e.g. I'd be surprised if they handled
conjunct characters.
FWIW, there was a similar encoding called TSCII for Tamil.
iconv can be used to map TSCII to other encodings, but for some reason it
doesn't seem to have ISCII in its reportoire (it does include VISCII, but
that's a legacy Vietnamese encoding).
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Lorna Evans
2018-02-21 22:34:51 UTC
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I think this is a TECkit converter for the Preeti font:

https://github.com/silnrsi/wsresources/tree/master/scripts/Deva/legacy/sag-preeti/mappings

Lorna


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Date: 2/17/2018 11:11 AM
Post by ShreeDevi Kumar
Please see
view-source:http://hindi-fonts.com/tools/Preeti-to-Unicode-Converter
There is no direct mapping, butarray_one has the ASCII codes for
Preeti, while array_two has the corresponding unicode.
ShreeDevi
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:32 PM, ShreeDevi Kumar
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
What I think I am looking for is something that would map a document
typeset using something like the Devanagari Preeti font
(https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font
<https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font>), which seems to have the Devanagari
glyphs encoded in the range 0x00-0x7F, to something like the
Devanagari unicode font Mukta
(https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html
<https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html>) in the range
0x0900-0x097F.
Please try http://www.ashesh.com.np/preeti-unicode/
<http://www.ashesh.com.np/preeti-unicode/>
Also see
https://github.com/Shuvayatra/preeti
<https://github.com/Shuvayatra/preeti>
ShreeDevi
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Mike Maxwell
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode
mapping for Devanagari?
For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "à€¬" is
encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin
alphabet), but is
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
<http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf>
So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.
In addition to the ASCII-to-Devanagari transcription system
that Philip Taylor mentioned, you may be interested in the
ISCII encoding for Brahmi-derived writing systems, including
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Information_Interchange
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Information_Interchange>
This is _not_ an ASCII-to-Devanagari encoding, rather it
leaves the ASCII range intact, and encodes Devanagari (etc.)
in the range 128 (actually, 161)-255.  It was afaik never
widely used, but there were (and probably still are) fonts for
it.  I don't imagine those fonts would be terribly high
quality by today's standards, e.g. I'd be surprised if they
handled conjunct characters.
FWIW, there was a similar encoding called TSCII for Tamil.
iconv can be used to map TSCII to other encodings, but for
some reason it doesn't seem to have ISCII in its reportoire
(it does include VISCII, but that's a legacy Vietnamese encoding).
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2018-02-22 10:31:07 UTC
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Many many thanks to everyone who took the time to help me out with the
Devanagari ASCII to unicode problem (including one very helpful
off-list email). And many many many apologies for my very late reply
(I started a new job earlier this week).

I think the conclusion is that I was going about the problem the wrong
way---that there is no one-to-one mapping between the Devanagari ASCII
font and unicode font. Rather, it is many-to-one.

The SIL resources were very helpful. They have a teckit map there for
Preeti to unicode (as indicated by Lorna). I have not actually tried
it yet; but there is a good chance that it will work or will work with
small modification.

Many many thanks to all,
Dan
Post by Lorna Evans
https://github.com/silnrsi/wsresources/tree/master/scripts/Deva/legacy/sag-preeti/mappings
Lorna
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Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Devanagari ASCII to Unicode mapping
Date: 2/17/2018 11:11 AM
Please see
view-source:http://hindi-fonts.com/tools/Preeti-to-Unicode-Converter
There is no direct mapping, but array_one has the ASCII codes for Preeti,
while array_two has the corresponding unicode.
ShreeDevi
____________________________________________________________
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
What I think I am looking for is something that would map a document
typeset using something like the Devanagari Preeti font
(https://fonts2u.com/preeti.font), which seems to have the Devanagari
glyphs encoded in the range 0x00-0x7F, to something like the
Devanagari unicode font Mukta
(https://ektype.in/scripts/devanagari/mukta.html) in the range
0x0900-0x097F.
Please try http://www.ashesh.com.np/preeti-unicode/
Also see
https://github.com/Shuvayatra/preeti
ShreeDevi
____________________________________________________________
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Post by Daniel Greenhoe
Does anyone know where I can find an ASCII to Unicode mapping for Devanagari?
For example, it seems that the Devanagari glyph "ब" is encoded as
0x61 (hex) in ASCII (lower case 'a' for the Latin alphabet), but is
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
So what I am asking for is a map (or table) that maps 0x00-0x7F in
Devanagari ASCII to 0x0900-0x097F in Unicode.
In addition to the ASCII-to-Devanagari transcription system that Philip
Taylor mentioned, you may be interested in the ISCII encoding for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Information_Interchange
This is _not_ an ASCII-to-Devanagari encoding, rather it leaves the ASCII
range intact, and encodes Devanagari (etc.) in the range 128 (actually,
161)-255. It was afaik never widely used, but there were (and probably
still are) fonts for it. I don't imagine those fonts would be terribly high
quality by today's standards, e.g. I'd be surprised if they handled conjunct
characters.
FWIW, there was a similar encoding called TSCII for Tamil.
iconv can be used to map TSCII to other encodings, but for some reason it
doesn't seem to have ISCII in its reportoire (it does include VISCII, but
that's a legacy Vietnamese encoding).
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
I think the conclusion is that I was going about the problem the wrong
way---that there is no one-to-one mapping between the Devanagari ASCII
font and unicode font. Rather, it is many-to-one.
Is the problem not, in fact, that there is not one "Devanagari ASCII
font" but rather many, for each of which there is potentially a
different mapping required ?
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Post by Daniel Greenhoe
I think the conclusion is that I was going about the problem the wrong
way---that there is no one-to-one mapping between the Devanagari ASCII
font and unicode font. Rather, it is many-to-one.
Is the problem not, in fact, that there is not one "Devanagari ASCII font"
but rather many, for each of which there is potentially a different mapping
required ?
Yes, there are many fonts with non-unicode proprietary encodings. The web
sites with such fonts offer downlowd of a Windows executable which installs
these fonts into Windows, so I have never managed to view such pages on
Linux. It is not difficult to define the mapping for TECkit if you know the
encoding.
Philip Taylor
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